Got this from http://downtuned.net/2009/07/20/the-8-worst-things-to-happen-to-heavy-metal-ever/ - can you add anymore ?

Ahhh…metal. A much derided, mocked and generally-laughed-at genre. And with good reason. It’s ludicrous. It’s juvenile. It’s bloody silly. But it’s also, in my opinion, the most fun you can have with music. It’s great. But playing devil’s advocate or celebrating the spandex is another post for another day. Today we shall be looking at the worst things that have happened to metal, the genre, the musicians and the bands. In it’s long history, metal has seen its fair share of stupidity and tragedy. Let’s take a look at the worst things that have happened to metal…

1. Chuck Schuldiner Dies Of Brain Cancer

Quite honestly the best guitarist / vocalist in the history of Death Metal and one of the best in straight up metal – Chuck Schuldiener was the driving force behind one of the founding bands of Death Metal – Death. Beginning as a Death Metal band, Chuck brought in elements of jazz, prog and classic heavy metal to further albums reaching the pinnacle of Death Metal perfection with Symbolic and the Sound of Perseverance He was widely regarded as one of the nicest guys in the genre and not only a great musician but a true fan of metal, putting out the Metal Crusade newsletter with his girlfriend. Tragically Chuck contracted brain cancer in 1999 and eventually died in 2001, leaving a legacy of great music and a great big hole in Death metal that has yet to be filled.

2. Bodycount Release Their First Album

There are worse albums. There are FAR worse albums. In fact I think Ice T is kinda cool. But this is a symbolic choice. This represents the birth of nu-metal, the awful bastard child of metal and hip hop that blends the worst elements of both and became a blight on the musical landscape for over a decade. Bands that took inspiration from this album like Korn, Coal Chamber and Linkin Park somehow managed to take this album as a blueprint and build something far worse.

3. Ozzy Does Reality TV
Ozzy was widely regarded as the prince of darkness, a legend in heavy metal, a member of the band that invented the genre. A dude so frickin METAL he has bitten the heads off two different living creatures and pissed all over the goddamned Alamo. That all changed on March 5th 2002 when he whored himself out to MTV. He instantly went from from revered metal god to shuffling, slurring idiot, cleaning up after a pack of yappy, ugly mutts. (I mean the dogs, not his kids.) It also inflicted Kelly Osbourne – a spoiled, post-accident Veruca Salt – on the world. Along with Jack Osbourne, who amazingly has less redeeming features than his sister.

4. Fred Durst’s Appearance On A Soulfly Album
Max Cavalera – we thought you were cool. Every Sepultura album was awesome. Even Roots, which even managed to get away with having ‘tribal influences’. But the first Soulfly album managed to piss upon everything that made Sepultura great. Bringing in fat, balding frat – that twat Fred Durst from possibly the worst band ever – Limp Bizkit – to provide rap vocals and back up squealing on mediocre track ‘Bleed’ was a serious misstep that caused a thousand face-palms in metal fans everywhere.

5. The Black Metal Murders

The early nineties in Norway was a scary place to be into metal. Suicide and murder was rife. If you believe the press. In actuality there were two murders – Thorns stabbed a dude in a park, and Varg Virkernes stabbed Euronymous. Dead from Mayhem shot himself. Crazy shoit. However these stupid acts were turned into a media frenzy, blowing Black Metal into the mainstream and inspiring copycat dumbness the world over. Instead of being a fun little sub genre of metal, Black Metal became a kvlt ov evil with idiots trying to apply the most ornate corpse-paint and have the most monochrome album covers.

6. Metallica – St Anger / Some Kind of Monster

Metallica’s first three album’s are untouchable. Amazing examples of a young band pushing at he boundaries of metal and creating a legacy that would last for years to come. A legacy that got pissed all over by this monstrosity. Even through the 90s, Metallica weren’t that bad. You just had to forget that they were once the coolest band in metal and just imagine them as a cool rock band and – hey – they’re pretty alright. But then – St Anger. Trying to cash in on the re-emergence of metal headed up by Maiden and Priest, they record a ‘raw’ album. Full of unbelievably bad songs, shite lyrics (’I'm madly in anger with you’) and a snare that sounds like someone hitting a bin with a brush. And to add insult to injury, they release ‘Some Kind Of Monster’ – that shows the band, people thought to be the very baddest of badass – in therapy. THERAPY. That’s one wet, piss-smelling legacy right there guys. No wonder Jason left.

7. Lars Ulrich Vs. Napster

Metallica again. They are idiots after all. 2000 started as a pretty cool year for music on the internet. Thanks to Napster you could find and download whatever you wanted. Free. Took a while, but the system was efficient and easy. Thanks to Napster I discovered countless bands and had my eyes opened to entirely new genres. Enter Metallica. Apparently they got wind that shoit song ‘I Disappear’ for shittier movie Mission Impossible 2 had been leaked on Napster and instead of thinking ‘hmmm…free publicity’ decided to shut it down. The outlaws of the music industry had become ‘the man’, showing how utterly out of touch they had become. Also, the world got to see how big a cock-end Lars Ulrich really is.

8. Dimebag Darrel Gets Shot On Stage

WTF? That was my reaction. I can sort of deal with metal heroes dying from natural causes, but this was just a major tragedy. Completely random, weird and horrid. On December 8th 2004 a mentally unstable former marine named Nathan Gale stormed the stage in a crappy club in Columbus, Ohio and shot Damageplan, and former Pantera guitarist Dimebag Darrel dead. This robbed the metal world of one of it’s greatest guitarists and according to reports, one of its nicest guys. Although Damageplan was nothing special, Pantera’s back catalogue is nothing short of genius. Riffs, solos, acoustic bits – everything was brilliant. A dark day for metal, and music in general.

That’s eight… are there more?

NOTE - I COPY N PASTED THIS FROM ANOTHER SITE, I DON'T AGREE WITH SOME OF IT !!!

Metallica did nothing wrong in confronting napster IMO. Every musician/band/"artist" should have. Had they we might not have the downloading problems that we have now.

The 8 (or so) Worst things to happen to Heavy Metal:


1. MTV

2. Jackass

3. Pantera

4. Dimebag

5. Downloading

6. Peter Steele Dies

7. Rockband video game franchise

8. Jack Black

I agree with you on the Napster thing, everybody should know my views on downloading by now. It was just a bit sickening though to hear Lars complain about losing money when all that really happened to Metallica is they only made 10 million $$$ instead of 11 or whatever lol. They really showed how greedy they really are with those comments. I agree with your 8 too but here is a few more.

1. Cable Metal Shows - Shows like 'That Metal Show' do more harm than good to the metal scene. This show hosted by three douchebags is embarrassing to watch. The show basically has the attitude that metal ended in 1990 and that was the end of it. Stale format, stale jokes, stale guests and worst of all… stale metal. Jim Florentine and Don Jamieson have the worst comical timing imaginable and that egomaniac Eddie Trunk who claims to know everything but obviously knows f**k all about anything metal after 1988 is a joke.

2. Rap-Metal - the day these two genres mixed was a tragedy.

3. 80's hair metal - when these bands all of a sudden got tagged HM, I knew all hope was lost.

4. Drum Machines - enough said.

Yet one more reason I'm more than happy that my wife and I don't have a satellite dish or cable. Hooray for the internet and netflix.

Yeah I have heard all that too. I have also heard one label, it might have been Relapse sent in a bunch of CD's and bios to the show and they were totally rejected on the bases it wasn't news-worthy material. Apparently talking about stale old topics like was Metallica better or worse after cliff died etc etc is more important than discussing new metal bands.

There is also a TV review site that analyzed the show for a entire season and discovered the most modern band mentioned was Slipknot lol. Talk about a stale format, no wonder heavy-metal died in the mainstream.

1. Glam "metal"
2.Ozzy Does Reality TV
3. Nu "metal"
4.The Black Metal Murders
5. MTV
6. Scorpions becoming comercial hard rock band in 80s after metal era ( i also like some post metal era, but the 70s era was awesome)
7. poppy Melodic Death Metal/ poopy power metal
8. Poppy folk metal

They are in a random order

I also have to say, I don't like Netflix either. Reason being my wife is a DVD junkie, she spends 100's of $$$ each month on all the latest movies from all the genres and I don't like any of them. I haven't seen a horror film I have liked for years for example. If you want to start a movie thread and start recommending movies, I would be very interested in reading your suggestions.

I thought that at first but then I discovered Buffy the Vampire Slayer and became addicted, lol.

I know I'll get flack for it but I rather enjoy Glam/Pop/Hair Metal from the 80's. I grew up watching it on MTV and my older cousins were all about it.

I agree with Death Pop being added to the list. Melo-Death was cool when it started but its become so over-saturated and watered down that it's very difficult to listen too anymore.

Power Metal wasn't something bad its just grown stagnant to the point of ridiculous. How many bands do we really need to sound identical to Helloween, Blind Guardian & Gamma Ray?

yes i Melodic Death metal like At the Gates, but now the scene is becoming too big and bands like Amon Amarth are without soul.
and power metal isn't so bad, I actually enjoy Blind Guardian, so i have to agree with that some power metal is quite good. But nowdays there are not many original power metal bands and this kind of metal is becoming too radio friendly

Guitar Hero based "heavy metal" resurgence
Cold Lake
Nu-metal
Pop-Metalcore
Glam
All cable metal shows (including Metalocalypse)
Uptight/way too serious metal fans
All of the many fallen metal musicians

What about progressive metal, Dream Theater and all that. I went through a stage of liking that stuff but now I look back and wonder what the hell was I thinking. I just can't stand them these days. If I want to listen to prog I would rather listen to King Crimson, Yes or Rush to be honest.

I think I'd say Dream Theater fans over the band themselves. I've got their first 5 or so albums and I enjoy them for what they are. Fates Warning is good too but the original vocalist is annoying. I'm not saying that he can't sing but rather he just didn't fit the band IMO.

Another one:

The death of the printed Metal Magazine! Apparently the British publications are doing just fine, yet another scathing piece of evidence that this country is too lazy for its own good.

The more I think about it, I think I can say beyond the shadow of a doubt that the worst thing to happen to Heavy Metal is that no one has EVER recorded a phone call between John Tardy & Martin van Drunen.

I think Kerrang is still around but now it is full of crap like Panic! At The Disco and Green Day or at least that was in the last one, I have seen. I still have dozens of old Kerrangs from the early 80's. Along with Sounds they were the very first mag to feature bands like Venom and Mercyful Fate and more obscure acts like Cirith Ungol. It was great back then, now most of their original writers work for Classic Rock or have radio shows in the UK.

Crap like this: http://www.metalstorm.net/bands/albums_top.php?album_style=Doom

These are the most flagrant discrepancies:

The 3rd And The Mortal - Painting On Glass (not Metal)
Forest Of Shadows - Departure (garbage)
Galadriel - Renascence Of Ancient Spirit (not Doom)
Cult Of Luna - Somewhere Along The Highway (not Metal)
Draconian - Turning Season Within (not Doom)
Anathema - Alternative 4 (not Doom)
Anathema - Judgement (not Doom)
Acid Bath - Paegan Terrorism Tactics (not Doom)
Acid Bath - When The Kite String Pop (not Doom)
Cult Of Luna - Salvation (not Metal)

metalstorm is a mainstream metal webmagazine and it is good for news, but there are a lot of genre fails in metalstorm band-encyclopaedia

also the strange thing is: that only two BS albums are tagged on doom. It is truly debatable, if they are really doom ( I consider them as doom), but they should tagg at least first 6 albums as doom then

Another reason why I hate lists and musical tags, it is up to the ears of the individual listener and everybody hears things differently. Most of those sites are full of a lot of crap, like metal archives! That site is full of crappy reviews IMO and trolls who will post a shitty review just for the sake of trying to piss people off.

There is one dude on metal archives that does nothing but posts negative reviews on all the bands he hates just so it will take down their overall rating. The sad part is a lot of people read that those reviews and take it them very seriously.

I had an account a few years ago but I can't recall what it was. It does take a while to load. I've found that it loads faster on some computers than others. My home pc loads it fast enough but my work pc is slower than hell. When I worked at eBay it was relatively fast. It is a massive page however.

I was bummed out when Dime died. No need for that, and he was amazing no matter what the haters say.

I also really like hair metal, sorry. Twisted Sister's "Burn In Hell" I think out dooms a ton of the so called doom bands right now. and I know I'll catch some heat for saying that.

I will say that I agree with a whole lot of what you guys are saying in here though and this is agreat thread.