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PostSubject: Uriah Heep   Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:06 am

What's your opinion about these giants of hard rock music? Personally, i love them! The David Byron era of course but also the John Lawton era. I believe that they've produced some great music and have released some of the best 70's albums in general.
Salisbury, Look at Yourself, Demons and Wizards, The Magician's Birthday and Firefly are my favourites but i also like Wonderworld.
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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:47 am

Oh man, you are talking about one of my favorite all-time bands. Personally I put them right up there with the very best bands of the 70's. Their first 6 albums are all timeless classics, Look At Yourself is my favorite followed by Very eavy, Very umble and Demons and Wizards. The live album is one of the very best live albums ever recorded too. They did go downhill after the Wonderworld album in my opinion but they still came up with some great tunes. In fact, their last 2 albums are their best albums they have done since the early 70's. Ken Hensley is the most underrated organ player ever in 70's rock and Mick Box is a killer guitarist even though he is a little obsessed with the wah-wah pedal ha ha. I have seen them live what must be close to 10 times by now but never got to see them with Byron, he got kicked out of the band just as I first started buying them albums in 1976.

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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:13 am

I agree, Ken Hensley is a great keyboard player and a great composer but Mick Box isn't that good guitarist (technique-wise) especially in comparison with other guitarists of his age (Blackmore,Schenker,Roth etc). Uriah Heep's style was unique and the atmosphere on their albums was amazing! Byon was one of the best vocalists too, but his drinking problem was huge. I admire Gary Thain a lot, he had a very innovating playing and great sound on their records. I believe that Uriah Heep "died" when Ken left the band after the (good for me) Conquest album.
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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Wed Oct 12, 2011 10:45 am

Mick Box isn't technical but he has a great feel about his playing and I have always loved his solos even though they are kind of basic. Byron's drinking did destroy his career and his voice. If you watch the 1976 Pinkpop Festival footage on Youtube, his voice is really pretty bad by that point and he is obviously very drunk on stage. He actually passed out on stage once when he went solo.

And the band was never the same after Hensley left but I don't blame him for leaving. The band was in a mess at the end of the 70's but I always wish he would re-join them now, that would be awesome.

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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Thu Nov 10, 2011 9:59 am

Man I love these guys My favorites were Salisbury,the self titled one,and magicians birthday, Demons and Wizards. I really loved Ken Hensleys solo effort Proud words on a dusty shelf this was excellent in my opinion !!
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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:55 am

zardoz wrote:
Man I love these guys My favorites were Salisbury,the self titled one,and magicians birthday, Demons and Wizards. I really loved Ken Hensleys solo effort Proud words on a dusty shelf this was excellent in my opinion !!



I ranked Heep up there with Deep Purple as far as organ-led hard rock goes. I love Purple but Heep did more high quality albums than Purple ever did in my opinion.

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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:47 am

Uriah Heep had a series of albums that are at least very good (the first 5), Deep Purple never had that. But both are giants of the genre, though Heep are my favourite 70's band after Black Sabbath.

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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:54 pm

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Uriah Heep had a series of albums that are at least very good (the first 5), Deep Purple never had that. But both are giants of the genre, though Heep are my favourite 70's band after Black Sabbath.


I rate the first 7 as being very good to excellent if you include the live 73 album, the next 2 are good but the cracks were starting to appear and the last album with Byron was a disaster but 9 good to great albums in 5 years is an amazing record that beats Purple hands down.

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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:22 am

It's true, i like both Sweet Freedom and Wonderworld but all the previous albums are masterpieces. Return to Fantasy is mediocre and High And Mighty is bad, even there are 1-2 good songs in it. Also, Uriah Heep had many songs that were very "emotional" with a special atmosphere...

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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:10 am

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It's true, i like both Sweet Freedom and Wonderworld but all the previous albums are masterpieces. Return to Fantasy is mediocre and High And Mighty is bad, even there are 1-2 good songs in it. Also, Uriah Heep had many songs that were very "emotional" with a special atmosphere...



Yeah Sweet Freedom is a very good album. I think Wonderworld was the album when they started to run out of ideas but that album still managed to be pretty good. After that though was when they got into real problems. They started to rely on Hensley to come up with all the songs and his writing became stale but they had done 9 studio albums in 6 years so something had to give. I was never a fan of the Lawton era, there is a couple of alright songs here and there but generally, I think those albums were pretty weak.

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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:18 am

Ed, how do you like the latest and other Shaw era Heep albums?

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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:36 am

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Ed, how do you like the latest and other Shaw era Heep albums?


The last 2 Shaw albums are great especially Wake The Sleeper and Sea of Light is a very good album too. The others I don't like too much. I think Different World is one the WORST albums they ever released.

It is great to see they are releasing good albums now though and still delivering excellent live performances.

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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:44 am

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Ed, how do you like the latest and other Shaw era Heep albums?


The last 2 Shaw albums are great especially Wake The Sleeper and Sea of Light is a very good album too. The others I don't like too much. I think Different World is one the WORST albums they ever released.

It is great to see they are releasing good albums now though and still delivering excellent live performances.


I asked you because I need to check Heep Shaw era more, so thx

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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:02 am

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Ed, how do you like the latest and other Shaw era Heep albums?


The last 2 Shaw albums are great especially Wake The Sleeper and Sea of Light is a very good album too. The others I don't like too much. I think Different World is one the WORST albums they ever released.

It is great to see they are releasing good albums now though and still delivering excellent live performances.


I asked you because I need to check Heep Shaw era more, so thx



Yeah, I would start with the last two and then go backwards through the Shaw albums. The worst ones are the early ones with Shaw on vocals. Things turned around with Sea of Light and have been pretty good ever since.

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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:14 am

Well, i believe that Uriah Heep "died" when Hensley left the band...I know that the Lawton era was not that good (though i enjoy Firefly and some songs off of Innocent Victim) but there was still that Heep element all around. After Ken's departure the band turned into an average hard rock band with no imagination at all. The last albums with Berniew Shaw are just good but none of them can be compared to the ones with Byron (even the last 2).

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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:46 am

Pijo wrote:
Well, i believe that Uriah Heep "died" when Hensley left the band...I know that the Lawton era was not that good (though i enjoy Firefly and some songs off of Innocent Victim) but there was still that Heep element all around. After Ken's departure the band turned into an average hard rock band with no imagination at all. The last albums with Berniew Shaw are just good but none of them can be compared to the ones with Byron (even the last 2).



I agree, there was a chemistry on the Byron albums that was lost when he was booted out and when Hensley left they lost all of their prog-rock elements and became a straight-forward melodic rock band. They were heading that way for years anyway but Hensley leaving was the nail in the coffin.

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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:11 pm

I've only heard a few of their songs and they're not bad. I felt as though I was listening to a heavier Deep Purple and that was a bit of a deterrent. Not that a heavy Deep Purple is a bad thing in the least. I just prefer bands to sound like themselves and not their influences. I'll give them a fair chance one of these days.

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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:20 pm

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I've only heard a few of their songs and they're not bad. I felt as though I was listening to a heavier Deep Purple and that was a bit of a deterrent. Not that a heavy Deep Purple is a bad thing in the least. I just prefer bands to sound like themselves and not their influences. I'll give them a fair chance one of these days.


Yes they got compared to Purple a lot in the 70's but I hear them as very different bands and if you look at the time-line, they were doing the 'heavy' thing before Purple was. The first Heep album came out 3 months before the first real heavy Purple album so it is questionable to who is copying who. Heep did things on their early albums that Purple would have never done in the same time period, acoustic folky songs, orchestral things, and ballads. I think Heep took far more chances than Purple ever did which is one of the reasons they never made it as big but they are not for everybody. Personally I think Purple were far more mainstream than Heep was ever though Purple's album were consistency heavier. Heep would have never done a Smoke on the Water type song for example.

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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:17 am

Since you put it that way I'll be more objective the next go around.

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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:31 pm

i get tired of deep purple way faster than i get of uriah heep, magician birthday is a classic
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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:44 pm

swampmort wrote:
i get tired of deep purple way faster than i get of uriah heep, magician birthday is a classic


I think because their albums are more diverse, they have had a longer life-span than Purple. From the heavy to the progressive to acoustic to the more poppy stuff, Heep kind of did it all.

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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Fri Nov 25, 2011 4:54 pm

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i get tired of deep purple way faster than i get of uriah heep, magician birthday is a classic


I think because their albums are more diverse, they have had a longer life-span than Purple. From the heavy to the progressive to acoustic to the more poppy stuff, Heep kind of did it all.


yes, i dont think they put some kind of limitation on their sound and composition.
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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:30 pm

Demons and Wizards has to be, as I see it, one of the great rock albums of all time.
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PostSubject: Re: Uriah Heep   Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:03 am

teethofthevagrant wrote:
Demons and Wizards has to be, as I see it, one of the great rock albums of all time.



Look at Yourself is my favorite just over the debut, Live 73 and Demons and Wizards.

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