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Favorite Black Sabbath Album
Black Sabbath
22%
 22% [ 12 ]
Paranoid
5%
 5% [ 3 ]
Master Of Reality
14%
 14% [ 8 ]
Volume 4
9%
 9% [ 5 ]
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
12%
 12% [ 7 ]
Sabotage
25%
 25% [ 14 ]
Technical Ecstasy
1%
 1% [ 1 ]
Never Say Die
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
Heaven And Hell
5%
 5% [ 3 ]
Mob Rules
1%
 1% [ 1 ]
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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Tue 21 Feb 2012 - 10:54

I believe making a new album depends just on Tony health.

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Thu 23 Feb 2012 - 6:56

http://www.demonpigeon.com/2012/02/23/otto-schwarz-and-the-illuminatus-sabbath/

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Mon 27 Feb 2012 - 8:10

http://www.thegauntlet.com/article/53/24593/BLACK-SABBATH-To-Play-One-Show-In-America Sharon response on all this

http://www.thegauntlet.com/article/53/24597/Rick-Rubin-Comments-On-BLACK-SABBATH-Situation Rick Rubin speaks out on this situation...

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Mon 27 Feb 2012 - 8:26

Doomed poet wrote:
http://www.thegauntlet.com/article/53/24593/BLACK-SABBATH-To-Play-One-Show-In-America Sharon response on all this

http://www.thegauntlet.com/article/53/24597/Rick-Rubin-Comments-On-BLACK-SABBATH-Situation Rick Rubin speaks out on this situation...


Yeah, I read those articles a bit earlier this morning. I could care less what Rick Rubin says or thinks and I wasn't exactly thrilled that Sabbath was going to be working with the guy. His track record is pretty spotty and I don't think he's been involved with anything that has even remotely appealed to me since the early 90's.

I like how Sharon says that the door is open for Bill to join "us". Personally, I think her involvement in the current state of Sabbath's affairs is probably overblown (but with her opening her mouth it makes me wonder), but if she wants the negative backlash to cease then she really shouldn't be commenting on anything that has to do with Sabbath. Period. By opening her mouth and using the term "us" she is really inviting skepticism of her involvement, criticism, and the negative comments.
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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Mon 27 Feb 2012 - 8:37

Kuwa Slayne wrote:
Doomed poet wrote:
http://www.thegauntlet.com/article/53/24593/BLACK-SABBATH-To-Play-One-Show-In-America Sharon response on all this

http://www.thegauntlet.com/article/53/24597/Rick-Rubin-Comments-On-BLACK-SABBATH-Situation Rick Rubin speaks out on this situation...


Yeah, I read those articles a bit earlier this morning. I could care less what Rick Rubin says or thinks and I wasn't exactly thrilled that Sabbath was going to be working with the guy. His track record is pretty spotty and I don't think he's been involved with anything that has even remotely appealed to me since the early 90's.

I like how Sharon says that the door is open for Bill to join "us". Personally, I think her involvement in the current state of Sabbath's affairs is probably overblown (but with her opening her mouth it makes me wonder), but if she wants the negative backlash to cease then she really shouldn't be commenting on anything that has to do with Sabbath. Period. By opening her mouth and using the term "us" she is really inviting skepticism of her involvement, criticism, and the negative comments.


yes, I agree, I don't like to hear us in this interview...

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Mon 27 Feb 2012 - 21:03

Doomed poet wrote:
Kuwa Slayne wrote:
Doomed poet wrote:
http://www.thegauntlet.com/article/53/24593/BLACK-SABBATH-To-Play-One-Show-In-America Sharon response on all this

http://www.thegauntlet.com/article/53/24597/Rick-Rubin-Comments-On-BLACK-SABBATH-Situation Rick Rubin speaks out on this situation...


Yeah, I read those articles a bit earlier this morning. I could care less what Rick Rubin says or thinks and I wasn't exactly thrilled that Sabbath was going to be working with the guy. His track record is pretty spotty and I don't think he's been involved with anything that has even remotely appealed to me since the early 90's.

I like how Sharon says that the door is open for Bill to join "us". Personally, I think her involvement in the current state of Sabbath's affairs is probably overblown (but with her opening her mouth it makes me wonder), but if she wants the negative backlash to cease then she really shouldn't be commenting on anything that has to do with Sabbath. Period. By opening her mouth and using the term "us" she is really inviting skepticism of her involvement, criticism, and the negative comments.


yes, I agree, I don't like to hear us in this interview...



Two things...

I have always hated Sharon Osbourne but at the same time I know she gets blamed for a lot of stuff that has nothing to do with her. She has made dreadful mistakes and done some horrible things but I don't know if she can be blamed for this mess. The problem is, she sticks her nose into everything everyone is doing when she shouldn't be involved at all. History has shown as a manager, she is nothing better than average. She saved Ozzy's career in the early 80's and started Ozzfest but apart from that, everything she has done has been a failure. But it is true, she automatically gets used as scapegoat for stuff that happens to Ozzy and Sabbath and most of the time it is overblown or simply not true. $haron is a easy person to hate so people like to stick the knife in whenever they can.

Rick Rubin - Personally I don't like him as a person or as a producer. He only has ever done 2 or 3 albums worth talking about any-way. I would rather they drag Martin Birch out of retirement or some old-school producer like that than use Rubin.

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Tue 6 Mar 2012 - 12:03

http://www.black-sabbath.com/ WTF has happened with the black-sabbath online Mad

EDIT: Oh, i have found out that they are exchanging the server....

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Tue 6 Mar 2012 - 21:26

Doomed poet wrote:
http://www.black-sabbath.com/ WTF has happened with the black-sabbath online Mad

EDIT: Oh, i have found out that they are exchanging the server....



I dig the new layout and I am glad they kept all the original info. It is such a wealth of information with all the gig dates and so on.

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Tue 6 Mar 2012 - 21:51

During my research for my Doommantia Sabbath article, I came across numerous reports on times when Iommi collapsed, fainted or just fell ill and had to cancel shows. It first happened in 71 but it also happened at least once a year for the rest of the 70's. I know this has nothing to do with his illness now but I never knew he had a history of health problems.. Cool

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Wed 7 Mar 2012 - 8:34

Doom Vixen wrote:
During my research for my Doommantia Sabbath article, I came across numerous reports on times when Iommi collapsed, fainted or just fell ill and had to cancel shows. It first happened in 71 but it also happened at least once a year for the rest of the 70's. I know this has nothing to do with his illness now but I never knew he had a history of health problems.. Cool


interesting, I never knew that, but it is not too surprising since they were hard drug abusers in 70s.... BTW does anybody know when did they cut off their abusing of drugs and when did they really stop with the drug abusing?

PSoh, yes, I like your review, even though I love both albums..

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Wed 7 Mar 2012 - 8:43

Doomed poet wrote:
Doom Vixen wrote:
During my research for my Doommantia Sabbath article, I came across numerous reports on times when Iommi collapsed, fainted or just fell ill and had to cancel shows. It first happened in 71 but it also happened at least once a year for the rest of the 70's. I know this has nothing to do with his illness now but I never knew he had a history of health problems.. Cool


interesting, I never knew that, but it is not too surprising since they were hard drug abusers in 70s.... BTW does anybody know when did they cut off their abusing of drugs and when did they really stop with the drug abusing?

PSoh, yes, I like your review, even though I love both albums..


As far as I know, Iommi and Butler starting cleaning up just before the Never Say Die tour and were totally clean by the end of the tour. Osbourne and Ward of course got even worst.

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Wed 7 Mar 2012 - 8:52

Ed wrote:
Doomed poet wrote:
Doom Vixen wrote:
During my research for my Doommantia Sabbath article, I came across numerous reports on times when Iommi collapsed, fainted or just fell ill and had to cancel shows. It first happened in 71 but it also happened at least once a year for the rest of the 70's. I know this has nothing to do with his illness now but I never knew he had a history of health problems.. Cool


interesting, I never knew that, but it is not too surprising since they were hard drug abusers in 70s.... BTW does anybody know when did they cut off their abusing of drugs and when did they really stop with the drug abusing?

PSoh, yes, I like your review, even though I love both albums..


As far as I know, Iommi and Butler starting cleaning up just before the Never Say Die tour and were totally clean by the end of the tour. Osbourne and Ward of course got even worst.


But I read in Doom let lose that Tony was on drugs during the seventh star era ( but I might be wrong)

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Wed 7 Mar 2012 - 9:03

Doomed poet wrote:
Ed wrote:
Doomed poet wrote:
Doom Vixen wrote:
During my research for my Doommantia Sabbath article, I came across numerous reports on times when Iommi collapsed, fainted or just fell ill and had to cancel shows. It first happened in 71 but it also happened at least once a year for the rest of the 70's. I know this has nothing to do with his illness now but I never knew he had a history of health problems.. Cool


interesting, I never knew that, but it is not too surprising since they were hard drug abusers in 70s.... BTW does anybody know when did they cut off their abusing of drugs and when did they really stop with the drug abusing?

PSoh, yes, I like your review, even though I love both albums..


As far as I know, Iommi and Butler starting cleaning up just before the Never Say Die tour and were totally clean by the end of the tour. Osbourne and Ward of course got even worst.


But I read in Doom let lose that Tony was on drugs during the seventh star era ( but I might be wrong)


I have read he relapsed into drug use a few times but each time it wasn't long before he got himself cleaned again. I know Butler was the role model for getting clean and sober, he more or less just went cold turkey with no rehab or anything and got clean but it was harder for Iommi. I also read once that Iommi had a addiction to pills, mainly sleeping tablets.

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Fri 9 Mar 2012 - 18:31

Sabotage is my favorite Sabbath album and I think the band I have listened to the longest. Even when I was crazed about black metal bands, I still listened to Black Sabbath.
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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Fri 9 Mar 2012 - 18:48

Immortella wrote:
Sabotage is my favorite Sabbath album and I think the band I have listened to the longest. Even when I was crazed about black metal bands, I still listened to Black Sabbath.


Ditto, they are one of the constants on my stereo regardless of what else is on rotation.
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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Fri 9 Mar 2012 - 18:52

perdurabo wrote:
Immortella wrote:
Sabotage is my favorite Sabbath album and I think the band I have listened to the longest. Even when I was crazed about black metal bands, I still listened to Black Sabbath.


Ditto, they are one of the constants on my stereo regardless of what else is on rotation.



They are the only band I can think of where I have never questioned my love for them, I will listen to them to the day I croak.
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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Fri 9 Mar 2012 - 21:26

Immortella wrote:
Sabotage is my favorite Sabbath album and I think the band I have listened to the longest. Even when I was crazed about black metal bands, I still listened to Black Sabbath.


I second that. They just don't take a back seat to anything
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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Fri 9 Mar 2012 - 21:49

stonemagnum wrote:
Immortella wrote:
Sabotage is my favorite Sabbath album and I think the band I have listened to the longest. Even when I was crazed about black metal bands, I still listened to Black Sabbath.


I second that. They just don't take a back seat to anything



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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Sun 18 Mar 2012 - 21:44

Check out my friend's Anita's new Sabbath tattoo, looks awesome.


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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Mon 19 Mar 2012 - 11:17

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Check out my friend's Anita's new Sabbath tattoo, looks awesome.




That is awesome.

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Mon 19 Mar 2012 - 15:29

Yeah it is great. I want a Sabbath tatt more than ever now... cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Mon 19 Mar 2012 - 15:30

Also I just seen that Sabotage is now 3 votes clear in the poll. I think that makes it official that Sabotage is the most underrated album by critics but the most loved by fans.

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Mon 19 Mar 2012 - 18:51

Doom Vixen wrote:
Check out my friend's Anita's new Sabbath tattoo, looks awesome.




Wow, that tattoo is great.

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Tue 20 Mar 2012 - 13:11

Candy69 wrote:
Doom Vixen wrote:
Check out my friend's Anita's new Sabbath tattoo, looks awesome.




Wow, that tattoo is great.


Agreed, that is badass
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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Tue 20 Mar 2012 - 13:15

perdurabo wrote:
Candy69 wrote:
Doom Vixen wrote:
Check out my friend's Anita's new Sabbath tattoo, looks awesome.




Wow, that tattoo is great.


Agreed, that is badass


Even if I dislike tattoes, I woudn't mind getting a tatto like cause it is the best tatoo I have ever seen Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Tue 20 Mar 2012 - 13:24

I want a tattoo now after seeing that. Awesome.
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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 7:51

Sabbath news has gone quiet now. Nobody seems have a clue what is going on with them.

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 8:10

BLACK SABBATH guitarist Tony Iommi, who is currently
receiving treatment in England for the early stages of lymphoma, with
which he was diagnosed late last year, has issued the following update:

"A little update on how it's all going:

"Well,
I've had the last dose of chemotherapy, so hopefully my body will start
to get back to normal soon. The steroids were the [worst]. I've now
got three weeks of radiotherapy coming up which I'm told can be very
tiring, so we'll see.

"A big thanks to [fellow SABBATH members] Ozzy [Osbourne] and Geezer [Butler] for coming over to England; it was a big incentive for me. We managed to work most days and have some great new tracks.

"And, importantly, thanks again for your kind messages. Hope to be seeing you soon."

Lymphoma is a cancer of the lymphocytes, a type of cell that forms part of the immune system.

BLACK SABBATH will play one U.S. date sometime this summer, according to a VH1 Radio Network interview with Sharon Osbourne, wife and manager of SABBATH singer Ozzy Osbourne. Sharon
revealed, "They're gonna be doing one show in America this summer but I
can't say yet because we can't announce it, the promoters have to, but
they are doing one show in August here together." The news follows the
cancellation of all SABBATH tour dates abroad except for a headlining slot at the U.K.'s Download Festival in June, due to Iommi's battle with lymphoma.

As for whether original Ward will participate in the U.S. show, Sharon said, "We don't know yet, we really don't know. It's up to Bill. The door is open for him to join us, so it's up to him."

Meanwhile, Ozzy, Iommi and bassist Geezer Butler are in London continuing to record their first album together in 33 years, although without Ward it is not the original SABBATH reunion announced last November.

Sharon
said about the recording sessions, "It's going good. They're doing
really well in the studio. Gosh, they must've written 15 new songs
already and it's going great."

She also denied that she was responsible for Ward's
current absence from the project, saying, "Everybody's got their own
manager, so we have an independent group of people that have come in to
manage the project, and I don't, and I get the blame because Bill
doesn't want to play with the band; he doesn't like his deal and I get
the blame. It's like, 'All right, I'm a big girl, I can take it.'"

Ward has been sitting out the sessions due to being offered what he called "an unsignable contract" in an open letter to SABBATH fans.

Ward posted an update on February 17 in which he said he "remains hopeful" for a positive outcome to the situation.

The rest of SABBATH's scheduled European summer gigs will be replaced by "Ozzy And Friends", at which the singer will be joined by Butler, former Ozzy guitarist Zakk Wylde and other special guests, including Slash on selected dates.

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 8:19

Even if it is not her fault i would still to prefer to hear the details from somebody other than her. Why is she playing spokesperson?
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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 8:30

perdurabo wrote:
Even if it is not her fault i would still to prefer to hear the details from somebody other than her. Why is she playing spokesperson?



Yeah that pisses me off too. To be fair it is the media that keeps asking her questions but why is beyond me.

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 9:11

Ed wrote:
perdurabo wrote:
Even if it is not her fault i would still to prefer to hear the details from somebody other than her. Why is she playing spokesperson?



Yeah that pisses me off too. To be fair it is the media that keeps asking her questions but why is beyond me.


maybe all are thinking it is her fault... I am totally confused in this case scratch

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Tue 27 Mar 2012 - 15:15

I am sure it is not all her fault but she has made the situation worse by opening her mouth once again.
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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Mon 9 Apr 2012 - 11:04

http://prettymuchamazing.com/news/is-this-the-lollapalooza-2012-lineup

Seems Sabbath will visit US...

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Mon 9 Apr 2012 - 11:57

Doomed poet wrote:
http://prettymuchamazing.com/news/is-this-the-lollapalooza-2012-lineup

Seems Sabbath will visit US...



Very little has been confirmed but lets hope it happens. I would to hate to have to sit through all those shitty bands to see Sabbath. If they tour the US, they should play the Key Arena which is just a few minutes from here. That would be perfect but who knows what is going to happen at this stage.

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Thu 12 Apr 2012 - 18:47

I just read there is only one concert for the US. If that is true, it sucks. What a kick in the face for US fans.
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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Fri 13 Apr 2012 - 0:41

there is one concert for Europe too, in UK and I don't like that, but what can we do about it...

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Fri 13 Apr 2012 - 7:45

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there is one concert for Europe too, in UK and I don't like that, but what can we do about it...


They might just be playing it safe because of Iommi's illness and I can understand that but they are a bit slow at coming forward and explaining what is happening. I can't see any point in doing just ONE show in the US unless they are filming it for a DVD or something.

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Fri 20 Apr 2012 - 8:34

Former BLACK SABBATH, DIO, HEAVEN & HELL and current KILL DEVIL HILL drummer Vinny Appice says that it would be hard to turn down the opportunity to play with BLACK SABBATH again if he was asked to replace original SABBATH drummer Bill Ward , who announced in February that he could not participate in the planned reunion of the band's founding lineup.

"Everybody goes: Well, If you did get asked, would you do it?" Vinny tells Powerline
in a brand new interview. "And how could you turn it down? It's part of
rock history. It's probably the last album they'll ever make, so who
wouldn't want to do it? But I wouldn't want to stop my [new] band [KILL DEVIL HILL]
in its tracks. What am I gonna do, stop this and do that? I would say,
if it was to happen, it would have to be both things, you know. With my
band, maybe we can be on some of the dates and whatever… But it's not
gonna happen anyway, because they're moving on. I don't know what's
going on, but obviously they're moving on, so … And I got this and I'm
stoked, you know. This is my dream right here."

KILL DEVIL HILL — the band featuring Appice, Rex Brown (PANTERA, DOWN) on bass, Mark Zavon (RATT, W.A.S.P., 40 CYCLE HUM) on guitar and Jason "Dewey" Bragg (PISSING RAZORS) on vocals — will release its debut album on May 22 via SPV/Steamhammer.

"I always dreamed I would have my own band," Appice tells Powerline.
"And I did have bands in Brooklyn where I grew up but my dream was to
make it in the business with my own band. And then I had a band called AXIS and that was becoming a dream but we couldn't do it. It was hard. And I had gotten in Rick Derringer's band, then we broke up and I went back to AXIS and try to make it happen, then I got a call from BLACK SABBATH, so that interrupted that. And then BLACK SABBATH lasted, then Ronnie [Dio] wanted to do a new band so, of course, I'm gonna go with Ronnie.
So I always ended up playing with other legendary people, and never had
the chance to do my own band. I did it a couple times with WORLD WAR III and a band called 3 LEGGED DOGG,
but it just wasn't right at the time. It just fell apart. And then this
thing, I still dream about having my own band, you know. And a great
band, musically. And this [KILL DEVIL HILL] is more than what I expected. It's perfect."

When asked if Ward will participate in SABBATH's upcoming U.K. and U.S. shows, Ozzy Osbourne's wife and manager, Sharon, told VH1 Radio Network, "We don't know yet, we really don't know. It's up to Bill. The door is open for him to join us, so it's up to him."

Meanwhile, Ozzy, Iommi and bassist Geezer Butler are in London continuing to record their first album together in 33 years, although without Ward it is not the original SABBATH reunion announced last November.

Sharon
said about the recording sessions, "It's going good. They're doing
really well in the studio. Gosh, they must've written 15 new songs
already and it's going great."

She also denied that she was responsible for Ward's
current absence from the project, saying, "Everybody's got their own
manager, so we have an independent group of people that have come in to
manage the project, and I don't, and I get the blame because Bill
doesn't want to play with the band; he doesn't like his deal and I get
the blame. It's like, 'All right, I'm a big girl, I can take it.'"

Ward has been sitting out the sessions due to being offered what he called "an unsignable contract" in an open letter to SABBATH fans.

Ward posted an update on February 17 in which he said he "remains hopeful" for a positive outcome to the situation.

The rest of SABBATH's scheduled European summer gigs will be replaced by "Ozzy And Friends", at which the singer will be joined by Butler, former Ozzy guitarist Zakk Wylde and other special guests, including Slash on selected dates.

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Fri 20 Apr 2012 - 9:17

I hope this won't happen. Appice is a good drummer, but he doesn't fit this lineup...

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PostSubject: Re: Sabbathism   Fri 20 Apr 2012 - 10:16

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I hope this won't happen. Appice is a good drummer, but he doesn't fit this lineup...



I hope it won't happen too but it will be even worse if they bring in a drummer that has never been in Sabbath before. If he was still alive Cozy Powell could do a decent job but sadly that is not the case and apart from him, I can't think of anyone apart from Bill Ward I would want in the band.

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