|
| Author | Message |
|---|
Sally Co-Administrator Of Doom


 Age: 33 Location: Just South of Witches' Valley Posts: 268 KARMA: 53360
 | Subject: Metal Elitist Wed Feb 08, 2012 10:06 am | |
| http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Metal%20Elitist
We all know them, opinions please.. _________________ [sample: "You're all the same, the lot of you, with your long hair and][faggot clothes. Drugs, sex, every sort of filth. And you hate the police,][don't you?" "You make it easy."] http://www.doommantia.com
|
|
 | |
NTNR Agaliarept - General


 Age: 29 Location: USA Posts: 2305 KARMA: 80401
 | |
 | |
Kuwa Slayne Astaroth

Location: Denver, CO Posts: 248 KARMA: 22122
 | Subject: Re: Metal Elitist Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:15 pm | |
| Metal elitists aren't really any worse than any other type of elitist and the world is full of them. Whether it's regarding films, music and it's various genres, or art there's always going to be elitist snobs out there. That's fine, but they're probably missing out on quite a bit.
|
|
 | |
Ed Administrator of Doom


 Age: 48 Location: Auburn, Aberdeen, Washington Posts: 4515 KARMA: 163683
 | Subject: Re: Metal Elitist Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:23 am | |
| I have known dozens of metal elitists, I would estimate one in three metal heads are metal elitists to some degree. It happens in all music scenes but heavy metal in general seems to have more of them. I wrote a huge article years I got some shit for about scene-splitters. These are people who go out of their way to make sure their little metal world has no part in your metal world and have the my metal is better than your metal attitude instead of accepting other people have different tastes and just living with it. In doom metal there is not as much of it but it still exists. This leads to a split in the scene where if there was a doom metal festival for example, some doom fans would only go if there was "their type" of doom metal bands playing instead of all coming together for the one common cause. Many years ago there was a black vs doom mini festival where there was doom and black metal bands playing on the same show. The doom fans left after the doom bands finished playing and the corpse painted BM fans walked out when the doom bands were onstage. It screwed up the whole day for everyone. I can appreciate all kinds of doom metal and I can see and hear good things about all sub-genres of doom metal but I know I am in the minority.
This elitist attitude has been going on way before sub-genres were even invented. I remember getting laughed at once for going to a metal gig in a suit, I had just came from a wedding. The fact I wasn't wearing the metal uniform freaked people out. This all ties into the elitist attitude that there is only one way to be and step outside of that and you are in trouble. "Metal Elitists" are basically rude people and should be ignored. They are the type of people that think they know everything about a style, genre or scene, when in reality don't know anything more than anyone else. You find a lot of these people in bands too, they think because they can hit a few chords on a guitar that they are suddenly experts on everything. I meet them all the time. _________________ http://www.doommantia.com  |
|
 | |
Dr Doom Astaroth

 Age: 44 Location: Oakland, California Posts: 389 KARMA: 21668
 | |
 | |
Dr Doom Astaroth

 Age: 44 Location: Oakland, California Posts: 389 KARMA: 21668
 | Subject: Re: Metal Elitist Thu Feb 09, 2012 10:48 am | |
| This is a topic that really gets under my skin. Frickin know it all's!!!! You met them all in the time in the metal scene. What makes them think they are any better than anyone else is a mystery to me. Ed mentioned band members and that is 100% on the money. I knew a guy whose entire attitude changed once he got himself into a band, I don't know why that happens but it does.
It is cool to have a favorite genre and supporting it but putting down other genres is kind of lame. The Internet has made it a favorite past-time for a lot of bored people. Blabbermouth is one of the best examples of a breeding ground for this kind of behavior. |
|
 | |
doomlord The Tempter

 Age: 23 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 117 KARMA: 7236
 | Subject: Re: Metal Elitist Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:03 pm | |
| This is something you see a lot of around here. If you go to a show, you will see groups of people huddled in their corners and they will won't talk to anyone else. It is kind of weird that everyone is there to hear the same thing but there is no unity at all. The elitist attitude is well and truly alive around here, one of the reasons I don't get too inspire to go to shows. |
|
 | |
Ed Administrator of Doom


 Age: 48 Location: Auburn, Aberdeen, Washington Posts: 4515 KARMA: 163683
 | Subject: Re: Metal Elitist Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:07 pm | |
| | doomlord wrote: | | This is something you see a lot of around here. If you go to a show, you will see groups of people huddled in their corners and they will won't talk to anyone else. It is kind of weird that everyone is there to hear the same thing but there is no unity at all. The elitist attitude is well and truly alive around here, one of the reasons I don't get too inspire to go to shows. |
Yep, it is the same deal here too. Another thing that happens a lot is people will go to a show to see just one band. Once that band have finished their set, those people get up and leave and to hell with the other bands playing._________________ http://www.doommantia.com  |
|
 | |
wyrenn Leviathan

 Age: 31 Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada Posts: 413 KARMA: 32712
 | Subject: Re: Metal Elitist Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:15 pm | |
| | Ed wrote: | | doomlord wrote: | | This is something you see a lot of around here. If you go to a show, you will see groups of people huddled in their corners and they will won't talk to anyone else. It is kind of weird that everyone is there to hear the same thing but there is no unity at all. The elitist attitude is well and truly alive around here, one of the reasons I don't get too inspire to go to shows. |
Yep, it is the same deal here too. Another thing that happens a lot is people will go to a show to see just one band. Once that band have finished their set, those people get up and leave and to hell with the other bands playing. |
Sometimes the other bands are crap though.
In all seriousness, the rare times I go to shows I try to mix it up with people to little success. I don't know if they're being elitist or maybe I smell bad. |
|
 | |
Ed Administrator of Doom


 Age: 48 Location: Auburn, Aberdeen, Washington Posts: 4515 KARMA: 163683
 | Subject: Re: Metal Elitist Thu Feb 09, 2012 5:20 pm | |
| | wyrenn wrote: | | Ed wrote: | | doomlord wrote: | | This is something you see a lot of around here. If you go to a show, you will see groups of people huddled in their corners and they will won't talk to anyone else. It is kind of weird that everyone is there to hear the same thing but there is no unity at all. The elitist attitude is well and truly alive around here, one of the reasons I don't get too inspire to go to shows. |
Yep, it is the same deal here too. Another thing that happens a lot is people will go to a show to see just one band. Once that band have finished their set, those people get up and leave and to hell with the other bands playing. |
Sometimes the other bands are crap though.
In all seriousness, the rare times I go to shows I try to mix it up with people to little success. I don't know if they're being elitist or maybe I smell bad. |
Sometimes that might be true but more often than not they are just picky over who they show their support to. I find people very stand off-ish at shows these days. Once, admittedly is was a long time ago but I used to be able to strike up a conversation with anyone at a metal gig. Now, most people will just look at you and think - "who the hell are you" and walk away._________________ http://www.doommantia.com  |
|
 | |
Sally Co-Administrator Of Doom


 Age: 33 Location: Just South of Witches' Valley Posts: 268 KARMA: 53360
 | Subject: Re: Metal Elitist Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:08 pm | |
| |
|
 | |
Dr Doom Astaroth

 Age: 44 Location: Oakland, California Posts: 389 KARMA: 21668
 | Subject: Re: Metal Elitist Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:42 pm | |
| Elitists Are Killing The Heavy Metal Genre?
http://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=70440
The video here is chock full of contradictions and I doubt if you will get through more than 2 minutes of it but it is good for a laugh at least. |
|
 | |
Ed Administrator of Doom


 Age: 48 Location: Auburn, Aberdeen, Washington Posts: 4515 KARMA: 163683
 | Subject: Re: Metal Elitist Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:56 am | |
| | Dr Doom wrote: | Elitists Are Killing The Heavy Metal Genre?
http://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=70440
The video here is chock full of contradictions and I doubt if you will get through more than 2 minutes of it but it is good for a laugh at least. |
That didn't make a whole lot of sense but it is a good example of elitism in the metal scene. Funny thing is, that dude comes off as a elitist himself and yet he is complaining about elitists._________________ http://www.doommantia.com  |
|
 | |
NTNR Agaliarept - General


 Age: 29 Location: USA Posts: 2305 KARMA: 80401
 | Subject: Re: Metal Elitist Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:06 pm | |
| |
|
 | |
NTNR Agaliarept - General


 Age: 29 Location: USA Posts: 2305 KARMA: 80401
 | Subject: Re: Metal Elitist Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:11 pm | |
| | Dr Doom wrote: | This is a topic that really gets under my skin. Frickin know it all's!!!! You met them all in the time in the metal scene. What makes them think they are any better than anyone else is a mystery to me. Ed mentioned band members and that is 100% on the money. I knew a guy whose entire attitude changed once he got himself into a band, I don't know why that happens but it does.
It is cool to have a favorite genre and supporting it but putting down other genres is kind of lame. The Internet has made it a favorite past-time for a lot of bored people. Blabbermouth is one of the best examples of a breeding ground for this kind of behavior. |
I'm very intense about what I know, but anymore I just roll my eyes and keep my mouth shut. Life's too short for arguments. A debate on the other hand is fine. Especially if you're speaking to someone willing to hear your ideas and change their mind if the argument made is convincing. Those are hard to come by sadly. _________________ http://www.facebook.com/pages/Nevertanezra/163179627054889 http://www.myspace.com/nevertanezra http://www.youtube.com/user/NTNR1
Its angry at the room, mom, it wants the room to suffer.
|
|
 | |
Ed Administrator of Doom


 Age: 48 Location: Auburn, Aberdeen, Washington Posts: 4515 KARMA: 163683
 | Subject: Re: Metal Elitist Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:12 pm | |
| | NTNR wrote: | | Dr Doom wrote: | This is a topic that really gets under my skin. Frickin know it all's!!!! You met them all in the time in the metal scene. What makes them think they are any better than anyone else is a mystery to me. Ed mentioned band members and that is 100% on the money. I knew a guy whose entire attitude changed once he got himself into a band, I don't know why that happens but it does.
It is cool to have a favorite genre and supporting it but putting down other genres is kind of lame. The Internet has made it a favorite past-time for a lot of bored people. Blabbermouth is one of the best examples of a breeding ground for this kind of behavior. |
I'm very intense about what I know, but anymore I just roll my eyes and keep my mouth shut. Life's too short for arguments. A debate on the other hand is fine. Especially if you're speaking to someone willing to hear your ideas and change their mind if the argument made is convincing. Those are hard to come by sadly. |
Most of the time, I just keep my mouth shut now. I used to jump and shout about the things I love but I am just pass that stage now and I am sick and tired of trying to convince close-minded people of things when they are never going to change their thought processes, no matter how much you try. I am very opinionated about a lot of things, music, religion, politics but they are the things that can get you into the biggest trouble. I just keep my thoughts to myself, except for the website, that is my only outlet to let loose occasionally._________________ http://www.doommantia.com  |
|
 | |
zardoz The Tempter

 Age: 55 Location: Cartersville Georgia Posts: 188 KARMA: 5380
 | Subject: Re: Metal Elitist Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:45 pm | |
| | Kuwa Slayne wrote: | Metal elitists aren't really any worse than any other type of elitist and the world is full of them. Whether it's regarding films, music and it's various genres, or art there's always going to be elitist snobs out there. That's fine, but they're probably missing out on quite a bit.
|
You Pretty much sum it up here I could'nt agree more !!!
LET THE MUSIC FLOW FREELY GOOD OR BAD , BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER !!! |
|
 | |
|